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"But if there's no internal, there's no external - there is just a scene comprised of the number of levels of self-referentiality needed by us as inquirers"

-where does this leave the centre? Won't that be experienced as an externality. or are you saying not yet?

And what do you make of the conclusion to Gans' latest: "it is one thing to talk of "love of God," and another to *situate* this love as the transcendence of resentment in a specific orginary context. Classical phenomenology attempts to find such configurations within the researcher's own mind through introspection, but there is no substitute for positing them in the first place as objective external realities, which they must have been at some point in order for the human universe to get started."

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Yes, the center is a somewhat different question--it's both inside and outside the scene. Someone can be inside or outside of a scene--there are a lot of interiors and exteriors. Here, I'm just interested in the "internal scene of representation." I want to transfer that directly onto the social.

I agree with that conclusion, except, perhaps for "in the first place," which seems to assume some subsequent interiorization.

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