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I take it that mark, measure, bound, fit, are all implicit in any sign but that any given sign will be somehow more of one than the others. And/Or should I be thinking of, say, measure as a relationship between signs, or of different iterations of a sign in a scene, or of the stack of scenes, or of any given scene when it takes the form of a meta and/or an infra scene, or is measure most at home in what you call (re O-I-O loops) "a unit of discursive material"?

At first, I was thinking of mark and measure in terms of the division of the sacrificial animal on the originary scene and wondering how much of modern science is in debt to this more ritualistic part of language. And then I came up to this line, which made me think measure is just as much at the start of the scene as the end:

“Maintaining linguistic presence means seeking the gesture that will defer implosion, and then who might make that gesture, how, with what kind of markings from others on the scene, and so on. This is the source of all novelty, even in the form of a slightly different tonal inflection, which results from one scene intruding upon another.”

Any thoughts on how a language, like the Chinese dialects, which, one might say "institutionalize" tonal differences, distinguishing quite distinct words by only tonal differences, might have "advantages" in maintaining linguistic presence and avoiding the implosions of a more "revolutionary" culture?

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Warbling J Turpitude's avatar

Busy as usual (BAU) rereading orevious posts can't wait to catch up to this one! ITM can you please tell me in which one OR in which GA in the public sphere post you discuss most extensively the transformation of UK governance into the ops of central bank and intellgence agencies?

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